everyone is there, hindus all the way back to gandhi's time. communists, catholic protestants, black, colored, everything. we studied the different religious views of human rights, and they were highly educated people and highly intensely religious. i think it depends on what you devote yourself to, and if you're a busy scientist, that's what you devote yourself to. >> having read these three books and partial list coming in the series, there's certainly an opinion in parts of the academy that there are still -- there's much to be learned from understanding how the great religious texts of many faiths bear on the world today, and partly what we see around the world too is people acquire literal sigh and the urgency to ask questions in new ways, and we see that too in many institutions that are rejected for the first time because somebody gets the ability to ask questions. it's an interesting phenomena that makes books like this no less important. sir, you have a question. >> yes, i would pretend i'm with audiences who work at a think tank and n